drawing from extrastruggle.
We've been having a back channel conversation amongst the trackers at unmediated about how/whether to update the way in which we aggregate, present, and make useable the content on the site, in light of all the various aggregators, digg and its clones, and role model group blog sites that we all consume/use/hate/love. Since we all primarily support open media movements and the freedom of bits and so forth, and with all of us being busy with our primary projects, we are looking for ways to make getting content on the site easier and more streamlined, while making it obvious that we are presenting other sources content. With the availability of open API's for just about any type of media aggegration literally getting past the saturation point, and mashups taking every possible form, we are wondering, is it time to take a step back, or a step forward with how/what we do at umediated?
In the course of my surfing today, i found this new site, Boxxet Which just might be the straw that breaks the camel's back in how we all perceive the current mix and match nature of the web as it now stands. What's different about Boxxet from other aggregators and mashups like the newest entry popurls, (which aggregates digg, slashdot, reddit, newsvine, tailrank, and flickr) is that Boxxet is a Website generator. Thats right, just pop in all the urls u want to aggregate (and WHAT from them) choose how u want to format it, plug in the url that u want it to be accessed at... and whammo: Your own site with everyone elses content, and all thats left to do is decide whether googleplex or yahooza is going to be the source of your linklove revenue. And if u have on older domain that u plug this into...well, we all know how the pageranking with search engines work by now. It used to be that u had to have a bit of code knowledge to make all this stuff work. Eyebeam's Re-blog engine which powers this site was not a simple undertaking at the time that Michael Frumin and Michael Migurski put it all together... a half a year before Marc Broadband-mechanicked the term Reblog as his latest buzzword before casting his attention on the ourmedia-meme. (kudo's, kudo's) But now, with the cut and paste mentality of webculture that we at unmediated have helped create, the pace at which people are remixing and repurposing code is accelerating at a rate similar to the curve that we saw with pro-sumer desktop video... almost anyone can do it. I have this sinking feeling in my gut that we will arrive sooner than later at the same existential threshold that the film studios and record labels are squirming under to our joyful cries of "die, dinosaurs, die!".
What i am wondering, is how long until my hero of the open-information movement, Cory Doctorow, and the rest of our pals at BB will tolerate re-aggregation and repurposing of his content, (now that he is investing so much more time at the site) before he (or any of one us) screams, "FOUL!" Stewart Butterfield over at Flickr is dealing with this beast at the moment...and i have to admire the dryness with which he states,
"I loaded the FlickrCentral pool and firefox got up to using 240mb of ram before dying. So that's not a great user experience, but it's really terrible for Flickr. If it catches on and you don't limit it, we'll have to cut you off :\"
Sure, Stewart, blame it on the user experience and firefox. ;) I admire your candor, and personal attention/approach to what has become one of the hottest new BRANDS in Web 2.0 ...that u still have time to be personal and all flickr-fuzzy even after being acquired, but I am sure that your jeans feel like they're fitting a bit tighter all of a sudden.
Pretty soon, I expect, a lot of us bell-bottomed infornistas are going to wake up in a similar pair of Jordaches. I'm curious which of us will cut the inseams and sew in another totally different material to keep our style,and which of us will claim that now that we're wearing skintight jeans ("they're really really comfortable...REALLY! You think i should get a pair of Reeboks to go with 'em?"), that the manufacture of bell-bottoms should be forbidden. I point this all out in good humour only to illustrate a point: The times, they are('nt) a changin'>, and Cory just might wake up one day soon in his magic kingdom, and say "Hey, man, where'd all my whuffie go? And he's going to have no choice but to join Walt's pinstripesuits in pushing for copyright extension. It's a pill i hope he (and we) never have to swallow.
So i pose the question to our community readers: How do you see unmediated-Are we crossing the boundaries in how we repurpose content? Would you like to see more editorializing? Narrower/Broader scope? Are we a repository of information that you come back to use, or just part of your daily information addiction? Let us know... I, for one, would like to have an idea about what pair of jeans to wear this year ;)
michael
For those of you who would like to get a quick understanding of what I propose, picture this...
A thousand remote users, registered at a site (not ideologi.com, but a site running software that allows them to run an ideologi exchange) to enter a contest to "Create a new design element or feature for a next-generation iPod."
To make things interesting, the host of the contest (called an Initiator) puts in a pot of $25,000 for winners. Here's what happens next...
At a designated time, the contest starts. A sorting system (again, not ideologi, but a system that runs on the protocols established by ideologi) gives each contestant anonymous samples of other contestants' submissions. You then score each of them. The sorting system retires the lower scoring submissions, and then resorts the high-scoring answers and sends them out again to those who haven't seen these answers before. The Initiator determines the number of rounds in advance of the contest. Once the last scoring round is complete, the contest is over.
The sorting system then takes the $25,000 and breaks it into the amount of points given out during the contest and transports the money to each of the contestants -- "payment on a curve" by a jury of their peers.
Think about Creative Commons licensing (creativecommons.org). You could run intellectual property development contests for ANYTHING. But who would own the IP generated/discovered by this mob of strangers? The ownership would be based on the amount of points you get during the scoring process. Picture a Linus Torvalds of any other industry who starts a contest by giving away only _part_ of the ownership of his intellectual property in order to "polish it up" with ad hoc brainpower from the world's mindtrust.
ideologi really is just a ruleset for running ideologi-based exchanges. I would love for someone to start build shareware based on this so that every blog, corporation, union, club, society, NGO, etc. would be able to do this!
If you eliminate the financial reward component, it really is the ultimate bottom-up consensus system.
I hope that helps...
Posted by: Mykljonzun at August 21, 2005 10:41 AM