June 14, 2005
We asked our friend Matt Thompson and his creative partner Robin Sloan to talk to us about EPIC, their anxiety-inducing vision of the mediacentric future. We asked them to share some of their experiences and thoughts since EPIC took on a life of its own on the Internet. They said, "Sure, why not?" Here it is:
Matt: One of the first questions people always ask after they see EPIC
2014 is, "Do you really think this is going to happen?"
Nah, we usually say. Google didn't even buy TiVo in 2004 (fixed in the
2015 version). Clearly they
can't take over the world now.
Lately, I've begun giving a different answer. It already has happened.
It is happening.
No, fact-stripping robots haven't quite been rifling through your news
sources, rearranging facts and quotes and recalculating statistics to
produce custom-tailored stories for you. Microsoft hasn't exactly
focused its sights on its suite of productivity software. And Google and
Amazon remain kissing cousins.
But all the fundamentals behind our narrative -- ever more customization
and choice; people contributing more of their thoughts, efforts, and
personal data to a shared media flow; the creation of worlds of
metadata; content freed from platforms; bourgeoisie relinquishing the
means of production to the proletariats; etc. -- most of this stuff is
old hat by now. I think EPIC has engaged people not by spinning these
trends out into what's going to happen next, but by putting them
together in a fun, vaguely sci-fi context and provoking people to think
creatively about what's happening right now. It prodded some people
who might not have thought of it before to see connections between
things like HousingMaps.com and BBC Backstage and Hossein Derakhshan and
RFID tags.
When we first started showing EPIC to journalists at the Poynter
Institute, the reaction was often, "This simply can't happen. People
will reject the shallow chaos of blogs and 'pods and whoziwhatzits for
our brand names, our hallmarks of accuracy and credibility." But days
after the little movie escaped to the Internet, in one of the first
threads about it on the group blog MetaFilter, one snarky commenter
immediately captured
its essence: "Citizens, I have had a vision of
tomorrow! It looks just like my vision of today, only... more so!"
Robin: Yeah, and EPIC is really meta, you know? Matt's right: The
things it describes exist today. But as an added bonus they are in
turn demonstrated by EPIC's travels.
The movie was featured in places like MSNBC, U.S.
News & World Report
and the Financial Times. But far, far more people found it on the Internet via blogs, forums, or (most of all, I speculate) via emailed
links.
Sure, our present-day proto-Googezon skews way nerdy; and sure, the
mechanisms by which information is posted and organized and sorted and
displayed are all pretty fungly. But still... it's kinda starting to
work.
What I wanna know is... when are we gonna start getting PAID?
(Hey, would anybody buy an EPIC t-shirt?)
Originally posted by Gloria Pan from morph, remediated by yatta on Jun 14, 2005 at 01:17 AM
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We've been having a back channel conversation amongst the trackers at unmediated about how/whether to update the way in which we aggregate, present, and make useable the content on the site, in light of all the various aggregators, digg and its clones, and role model group blog sites that we all consume/use/hate/love. Since we all primarily support open media movements and the freedom of bits and so forth, and with all of us being busy with our primary projects, we are looking for ways to make getting content on the site easier and more streamlined, while making it obvious that we are presenting other sources content. With the availability of open API's for just about any type of media aggegration literally getting past the saturation point, and mashups taking every possible form, we are wondering, is it time to take a step back, or a step forward with how/what we do at umediated? In the course of my surfing today, i found this new site, Boxxet Which just might be the straw that breaks the camel's back in how we all perceive the current mix and match nature of the web as it now stands. What's different about Boxxet from other aggregators and mashups like the newest entry popurls, (which aggregates digg, slashdot, reddit, newsvine, tailrank, and flickr) is that Boxxet is a Website generator. Thats right, just pop in all the urls u want to aggregate (and WHAT from them) choose how u want to format it, plug in the url that u want it to be accessed at... and whammo: Your own site with everyone elses content, and all thats left to do is decide whether googleplex or yahooza is going to be the source of your linklove revenue. And if u have on older domain that u plug this into...well, we all know how the pageranking with search engines work by now. It used to be that u had to have a bit of code knowledge to make all this stuff work. Eyebeam's Re-blog engine which powers this site was not a simple undertaking at the time that Michael Frumin and Michael Migurski put it all together... a half a year before Marc Broadband-mechanicked the term Reblog as his latest buzzword before casting his attention on the ourmedia-meme. (kudo's, kudo's) But now, with the cut and paste mentality of webculture that we at unmediated have helped create, the pace at which people are remixing and repurposing code is accelerating at a rate similar to the curve that we saw with pro-sumer desktop video... almost anyone can do it. I have this sinking feeling in my gut that we will arrive sooner than later at the same existential threshold that the film studios and record labels are squirming under to our joyful cries of "die, dinosaurs, die!". What i am wondering, is how long until my hero of the open-information movement, Cory Doctorow, and the rest of our pals at BB will tolerate re-aggregation and repurposing of his content, (now that he is investing so much more time at the site) before he (or any of one us) screams, "FOUL!" Stewart Butterfield over at Flickr is dealing with this beast at the moment...and i have to admire the dryness with which he states, "I loaded the FlickrCentral pool and firefox got up to using 240mb of ram before dying. So that's not a great user experience, but it's really terrible for Flickr. If it catches on and you don't limit it, we'll have to cut you off :\" Sure, Stewart, blame it on the user experience and firefox. ;) I admire your candor, and personal attention/approach to what has become one of the hottest new BRANDS in Web 2.0 ...that u still have time to be personal and all flickr-fuzzy even after being acquired, but I am sure that your jeans feel like they're fitting a bit tighter all of a sudden. Pretty soon, I expect, a lot of us bell-bottomed infornistas are going to wake up in a similar pair of Jordaches. I'm curious which of us will cut the inseams and sew in another totally different material to keep our style,and which of us will claim that now that we're wearing skintight jeans ("they're really really comfortable...REALLY! You think i should get a pair of Reeboks to go with 'em?"), that the manufacture of bell-bottoms should be forbidden. I point this all out in good humour only to illustrate a point: The times, they are('nt) a changin'>, and Cory just might wake up one day soon in his magic kingdom, and say "Hey, man, where'd all my whuffie go? And he's going to have no choice but to join Walt's pinstripesuits in pushing for copyright extension. It's a pill i hope he (and we) never have to swallow. So i pose the question to our community readers: How do you see unmediated-Are we crossing the boundaries in how we repurpose content? Would you like to see more editorializing? Narrower/Broader scope? Are we a repository of information that you come back to use, or just part of your daily information addiction? Let us know... I, for one, would like to have an idea about what pair of jeans to wear this year ;) michael
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