February 28, 2005
 unmediated call for info on videoblogging digital still cameras From Yahoo! Groups : videoblogging Messages : Message 6825 of 6825
Kenyatta and I were just chatting about how psyched we were for the oh-so-soon day when 1000s of us have hard-drive based cameras and are able to regularly post video with ease into mefeedia, vimeo, medicinefilms, ANT, ourmedia, etc... So while we both work on getting cases of cameras from Sanyo, JVC, et al., we thought it made sense to create a list of digital still cameras that shoot decent MPEG video clips. Some of these cameras are cheap and can be bought used on craigslist and on ebay, so we thought we'd compile the data and make a semi-official list of Unmediated Approved (or something more snarky please) digital still cameras that shoot video clips.
If you know of a camera that fits this description, please reply here (either in Unmediated's comments or at Yahoo Videoblogging Group) with as much of the following information you can provide:
-Brand
-Model Number
-Tell us about the movies it lets you shoot, how long, sound, file format
-How's the battery life on the camera when you shoot movies?
NOTE:
We are NOT looking for are recommendations on cheap tape-based camcorders.
We are NOT looking for recommendations on camera phones that shoot video.
We ARE looking for recommendations on digital still cameras that shoot video clips.
Thanks,
-eli, kenyatta, and the unmediated crew
P.S. If Sanyo or JVC or other camera vendors are here and want to chat, please contact me at eli AT chapmanlogic dot com.
Posted by Eli Chapman at 04:58 PM
It would be super nice if the cameras implemented some kind of wireless networking as well.
Sony Cyber Shot M1 -- Hey Eli -- check this one out. I'd been chatting with a friend about the new Sanyo Xacti C5 (it will cost close to or over $1000, apparently) when he asked if we had taken a look at the Sony M1. It records MPEG4 to Memory Stick.
http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/sony/dsc_m1-review/index.shtml
We (family members) highly recommend the Canon PowerShot S300 and S500, both of which were in the $300 range (when newly released), with the 512MB memory stick. These cameras record full res images at video speeds when in video mode, resulting in a very hi res video clip. Length of clip is limited only by size of memory chip (which are getting both larger and cheaper). Recently, 4 of us from NYC visited 2 family members in Buenos Aires. On the plane on the way back, one of us edits still and film clips with a music clip to create a 5 minute video of the trip. How I wish I had been able to do that for the last "n" years!!
Check out the Canon digital Elf. The S400 will do 3 minute video, decent sound, etc.
Regarding still digital cams that shoot video: I'm 25 yrs a free-lancer and I've been shooting an Olympus 5050 for about two yrs now, and can't say enough positive things about this camera. With a 64mb card in I can shoot a 3 min. video at a low res of 320x240 pixels. This is pretty grainy but still useful because the camera is so handy (and capable), and will work for images going on the web. Also the 5050 has a certain amount of editing capabilty for this video function. As a rule you can get about 3 seconds of video per mb on your card. I won't bore you with accolades, but check out consumer reports on this camera and I think you'll be impressed. The video feature on the 5050 has been very handy because I never seem to have my digital videocam when something pops up, but it's so easy to put the Olympus in your pocket and have great still and decent video power all in one.
Check it out, I-Mate PDA2K Pocketpc/phone, I purchased a 1Gb SDIO memory card for it and can now record over an hour of mp4 video on my phone.
this is where it's going, you don't always have your camera with you but most times you have your phone.
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It would be super nice if the cameras implemented some kind of wireless networking as well.
Posted by: Shawn Van Every at February 28, 2005 11:00 PM